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Re: Let's release some maps
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:32 pm
by deen
hannibal wrote:But it doesn't make sense to release 100 maps just to make all mappers happy. I think 1 map per day (max!) is okay. New maps won't get hyped because they are just buried under 3 new maps within days.
Yes, that's really a huge problem! Look for example how we released 0 novice maps in the last 30 days.
Re: Let's release some maps
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:34 pm
by hannibal
It's not like there are 100 novice maps waiting in the testing forum, right? :p So the novice-issue is another and to be adressed in another thread if at all ;D
Re: Let's release some maps
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:45 pm
by Broken
Ama dont lie about me thx
Re: Let's release some maps
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:50 pm
by Ñı©Ø
deen wrote:Yes, that's really a huge problem! Look for example how we released 0 novice maps in the last 30 days.
hannibal wrote:It's not like there are 100 novice maps waiting in the testing forum, right? :p So the novice-issue is another and to be adressed in another thread if at all ;D
Its not for spam, but i did a Novice map (
http://forum.ddnet.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=950 ). Kayumi think its ready for relase but other testers don't like map. This is a short novice map with a cool design, so why don't relase it? Other testers said this is unbalanced, but this isn't true for me, because the first part its just a little harder of the others and i like it ( even because if you do it 100 times even a noob can do this, its not faily, because its at the start ).
So, you have the final version of a map and i think you should add it, Broken, at your "list".
P.S. The post is called [NEW]Ice water, but maybe its not really "new" -_-
Re: Let's release some maps
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:03 pm
by Soreu
Let's release some maps? You finally found 10 maps that look close to release, and instead of spread them during some time, you want to release 2 per day? WTF?! Even 1 per day would be too much in such case. I know there are many maps, but it's fault of testers (which DDNet don't have enough + which sometimes do their job just like shit) and of mappers (if map don't have tons of bugs / shit parts, it's released in less than 3 days)
hi_leute_gll wrote:What you are doing here is ridiculous. You released random maps and being criticised and now you release half of the forum, maps wich are far away from being releasable and then 2 per day?
I'm out for now. I don't want to participate longer at this kindergarten, that's just time wasting. Obviously the work of testers isn't longer needed.
I fully understand why he left.
Ama wrote:You made me start working with this post so i test the maps when they need to be tested
You're damn tester, you should have do it loooong time ago, you know? (obviously not only you)
deen wrote:Guess we'll release even fewer maps now. I think mappers should seriously look for another server to release their maps on, instead of waiting weeks or months until they are released on DDNet.
Rather same number of maps, just even more shitty tested - if at all.
hannibal wrote:But it doesn't make sense to release 100 maps just to make all mappers happy. I think 1 map per day (max!) is okay. New maps won't get hyped because they are just buried under 3 new maps within days.
And all players happy. Every map need it's time, there is no way to test & fix everything in an hour (except if mapper was testing it before on it's own)
deen wrote:Look for example how we released 0 novice maps in the last 30 days.
hannibal wrote:It's not like there are 100 novice maps waiting in the testing forum, right? :p So the novice-issue is another and to be adressed in another thread if at all ;D
It's because mappers. It's way harder to make easy map, than to make brutal map. In such case testers should focus on helping mapper making his map novice if he want to - but which of them will care?
Quality, or quantity?
Re: Let's release some maps
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:10 pm
by Ñı©Ø
Hi_leute_gll and Ama have his work, so i know they can't do all of this work.
Kayumi is the most active tester.
Call for testers?
Quality ½ = BEST CLIENT
Quantity ½ = EVER
Oh, and why this post is in Official Servers? We're talking about mapping, so, maybe put it in mapping.
Re: Let's release some maps
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:13 pm
by deen
Soreu wrote:You're damn tester, you should have do it loooong time ago, you know? (obviously not only you)
Many testers don't test because they get insulted if they don't find all bugs and we release the map. So stop insulting testers please. They're doing a lot for DDNet.
Re: Let's release some maps
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:16 pm
by Ñı©Ø
Yes, Soreu. Maybe we don't like his idea of testing, like they don't like us idea of mapping, but we should not insult each others.
Re: Let's release some maps
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:23 pm
by hi_leute_gll
deen wrote:Soreu wrote:You're damn tester, you should have do it loooong time ago, you know? (obviously not only you)
Many testers don't test because they get insulted if they don't find all bugs and we release the map. So stop insulting testers please. They're doing a lot for DDNet.
Is this really the most important point for you in Soreus post? Except that it isn't really rude or so...
Re: Let's release some maps
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:37 pm
by Soreu
deen wrote:Soreu wrote:You're damn tester, you should have do it loooong time ago, you know? (obviously not only you)
Many testers don't test because they get insulted if they don't find all bugs and we release the map. So stop insulting testers please. They're doing a lot for DDNet.
Then why they are still testers, if they don't test, hmm? For color? I don't want to insult them, i say what truth is.
Each "job" has its pros and cons - being tester, being moderator, being administrator.
Though you know it best of us all, because ppl faster say if something is bad, than if something is great.
You're great admin and great person, but you don't have strong personality (or you're hiding it) - and sadly looks like you slowly starting to lost control (even if some would say that u already lost it).