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Re: Genericore 8 by Åmol [Insane]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:48 pm
by jao
Making parts that encourage blocking is very bad. People should have fun playing on DDNet - they shouldn't have to worry about being left or even kicked because of a non existing decently working waiting space, nor should they worry about being blocked by people trying to wait or even being blocked in general.
I can understand your idea and it might be cool to some degree, but in this case it doesn't fit and especially not at the beginning of a map.
Re: Genericore 8 by Åmol [Insane]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:28 pm
by Åmol
jao wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:48 pm
Making parts that encourage blocking is very bad.
Adding space to stand encourages blocking even more. Now you got a place to stand safe while blocking others. If you don't have any space to make your stand you cannot block others without getting blocked. I don't undersand you.
jao wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:48 pm
People should have fun playing on DDNet - they shouldn't have to worry about being left or even kicked because of a non existing decently working waiting space, [...].
There's no reason to get kicked if you behave, or am I wrong?
jao wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:48 pm
I can understand your idea and it might be cool to some degree, but in this case it doesn't fit and especially not at the beginning of a map.
Why would you rather want a faily part at the end of the map instead of a faily part at the end of the map...
In my honest opinion it fits very well with the map difficulty & gameplay.
Re: Genericore 8 by Åmol [Insane]
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:35 pm
by jao
If there is only little space where you can stand, you have to "fight" for it thus it causes more blocking xd - people will get annoyed by it and block back or do other stupid stuff wich leads to a block fest and then others start to vote players because they are mad. On DDNet this is a very realistic scenario sadly.
There won't be as many people towards the end of a map and they will play more carefully ususally.
Re: Genericore 8 by Åmol [Insane]
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:36 am
by Åmol
jao wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:35 pm
If there is only little space where you can stand, you have to "fight" for it thus it causes more blocking[...]
Is that your reaction? that's nothing I'd even consider. It's also even hard to just get to that part - nobody would risk anything at that point, It's almost as calm as 4q at part 2. If somebody would risk it at that point they probably don't care about finishing.
jao wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:35 pm
people will get annoyed by it and block back or do other stupid stuff wich leads to a block fest and then others start to vote players because they are mad. On DDNet this is a very realistic scenario sadly.
If it would be the case, you stop the silly fight by communicating with those involved. Those involved are most likely not usual DDNet players.
(except for Mithrandir)
jao wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:35 pm
There won't be as many people towards the end of a map and they will play more carefully ususally.
I like that some fail on the go, also that they play much more safe - it's a win!

Re: Genericore 8 by Åmol [Insane]
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:05 am
by aaa
why can't u just make that one part a bit more group friendly, we aren't asking for the moon..
at this point it seems more about the personal pride of not changing the part than a rational decision
Re: Genericore 8 by Åmol [Insane]
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:38 am
by Åmol
it damages the gameplay at that part
Re: Genericore 8 by Åmol [Insane]
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:22 pm
by jao
You are a good mapper, you can get it to work without influencing the gameplay..
Btw it is okay to have people fail as they progress, but they should fail in actual parts, not by trying to wait properly.
Re: Genericore 8 by Åmol [Insane]
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:35 am
by Åmol
-.-
Re: Genericore 8 by Åmol [Insane]
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:23 pm
by jao
Thanks, looks fine.
[release=2; Insane]"Genericore 8"; Åmol[/release]
Re: Genericore 8 by Åmol [Insane]
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:26 pm
by Kenzo
best map))