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Re: Another DDNet map testing group
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:58 pm
by maggi323
Novo wrote:
Imo the problem is if u test maps with mapper and he show u everything u cant rly say how the gameplay is and ofc u wont will find annoying parts that should be improved and other things .
Its better to test maps with 2 testers (both dont know map ) for gameplay .
The mapper should wait for you playing the map with another tester or a dummy or something, he shouldn't tell you what to do, he should just be there for listening to what you have to say about the map, it's easier for the mapper if he is getting live feedback.
-maggi323
Re: Another DDNet map testing group
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:29 pm
by Welf
Sometimes it is helpfull to have the mapper there when you test a map, because if there is a problem you can easily talk about it and the mapper gets more feedback etc.
On some maps everything is easy to understand and the mapper is not needed.
Also if you test with a mapper and he fixes everything while playing, the test takes much time.
Sometimes i prefer to be alone or with a friend, while i test a map (testing can be annoying with many people).
Some mappers can`t speak english that well so in these cases it is not helpfull to test with a mapper.
There are advantages and disadvantages, experienced testers don`t need a mapper to understand the map. In my opinion the testers should make this decision on their own.
Re: Another DDNet map testing group
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:50 pm
by Lady Saavik
You know what the problem is?
People joining the server and disturbing, sometimes voting other maps, talking, teleporting me for fun or by accident because they wanted to come to me. Happens to me since 1,5 year.
You know what I heard from deen?
That I have no rights to ask them to leave, they can stay and what is my problem?
I understand if they have a question or want something from me.
Just go an empty server? There is nothing to watch.
Re: Another DDNet map testing group
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:01 pm
by deen
Lady Saavik wrote:You know what I heard from deen?
I also changed the tester PW a few times, which didn't help much. I also offered you a private testing server with all the same maps as on the regular test server, but with your own password, but you declined. The offer still stands, or if you have a better idea, tell me. But I'm not going to run around on the test server and kick people all day.
Re: Another DDNet map testing group
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:15 pm
by Lady Saavik
Of course I have better idea. I don't understand what you are doing with my mod and tester status all the time, changing it without telling me anything sometimes a few times a day. I don't want to test or play that much anymore.
Re: Another DDNet map testing group
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:27 pm
by deen
Lady Saavik wrote:Of course I have better idea.
Would you mind sharing your idea?
Lady Saavik wrote:I don't understand what you are doing with my mod and tester status all the time, changing it without telling me anything sometimes a few times a day. I don't want to test or play that much anymore.
Yeah, and that's why I gave you Tester permissions on Forum, so you can download maps WHEN you want to test. You complained a few times about not being able to download maps.
I don't remember you being a mod in the last months.
I guess this means you're not interested in leading the Map Testing of DDNet.
Re: Another DDNet map testing group
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:33 pm
by Novo
maggi323 wrote:Novo wrote:
Imo the problem is if u test maps with mapper and he show u everything u cant rly say how the gameplay is and ofc u wont will find annoying parts that should be improved and other things .
Its better to test maps with 2 testers (both dont know map ) for gameplay .
The mapper should wait for you playing the map with another tester or a dummy or something, he shouldn't tell you what to do, he should just be there for listening to what you have to say about the map, it's easier for the mapper if he is getting live feedback.
-maggi323
Yea about this i said nothing and ye i agree with u
It was just silex said smth about : "mapper should explain u then the parts "
Re: Another DDNet map testing group
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:00 am
by teini94
Novo wrote:maggi323 wrote:Novo wrote:
Imo the problem is if u test maps with mapper and he show u everything u cant rly say how the gameplay is and ofc u wont will find annoying parts that should be improved and other things .
Its better to test maps with 2 testers (both dont know map ) for gameplay .
The mapper should wait for you playing the map with another tester or a dummy or something, he shouldn't tell you what to do, he should just be there for listening to what you have to say about the map, it's easier for the mapper if he is getting live feedback.
-maggi323
Yea about this i said nothing and ye i agree with u
It was just silex said smth about : "mapper should explain u then the parts "
So right maggi that is what i do with not only testers even with normal people who dont know mapping
Mapper should not really explain parts(sometimes maybe) for real gameplay and looking for maybe cool cuts (for maybe make the cuts more cool (thats what i do) or delete them
Silex / spyker i cry about delete cuts because (ama said the same before long time ago) thats the most fun , find a cut yourself and this make you fun (winner feeling) then cool anti cuter delete it 1 day later and sad and and and that is not the real meaning of tw i think
Re: Another DDNet map testing group
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:55 am
by Ryozuki
teini94 wrote:
Silex / spyker i cry about delete cuts because (ama said the same before long time ago) thats the most fun , find a cut yourself and this make you fun (winner feeling) then cool anti cuter delete it 1 day later and sad and and and that is not the real meaning of tw i think
"Not real meaning of teeworlds"
Firts you should know that DDrace is a mod, so "DDrace" can't talk about real meaning of teworlds

Re: Another DDNet map testing group
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:00 pm
by Spyker
i think we should talk about Eagle clan test, and not ddnet testing here.