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Re: Arcane - By Åmol & Aras
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:13 am
by Welf
i think this map shouldn`t be released, reasons:
the background isn`t that good, the parts are tight (map is not good for groups) and sometimes annoying faily. some parts are first try parts. map is not really creative
Re: Arcane - By Åmol & Aras
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:20 am
by Åmol
many maps are annoying & faily, there are maps that got first try parts, It's easy to find a map that's not creative, there are worse background. many maps got tight parts
Re: Arcane - By Åmol & Aras
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:23 am
by Welf
the problem is: this is often not good
i don`t think what ppl want to play that kind of maps
"there are released maps, which are worse" is not an argument!
Re: Arcane - By Åmol & Aras
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:34 am
by Åmol
there're lots of a maps at ddnet that isn't played anymore
Re: Arcane - By Åmol & Aras
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:39 am
by Welf
we try to avoid releasing these maps
Re: Arcane - By Åmol & Aras
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:39 am
by Soreu
if map is not good for groups why not make it for teams only? and i bet background can be improved if needed. none of these is good argument for "no release"...
Re: Arcane - By Åmol & Aras
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:42 am
by Welf
okay, maybe that werent reasons, that were things to improve..
Amol i just said <"there are released maps, which are worse" is not an argument!>
so why do you talk about released maps? ^^
Re: Arcane - By Åmol & Aras
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:13 am
by kamillentee
I'd say design isn't important for the release decision if the gameplay is good (design can be fixed later). As far as i see the map on pictures it seems funny to play but there are some really annoying part, especially the last one. Pls change it.
But don't force players to join a team. Not for such a map. Seems like team0-huge-group-failing map

(Real fun to play or watch)
Could anyone of the other tester rate the gameplay.
Re: Arcane - By Åmol & Aras
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:22 am
by deen
kamillentee wrote:Seems like team0-huge-group-failing map

(Real fun to play or watch)
That seems unlikely. In many parts you don't have enough space for 3 tees even.
Re: Arcane - By Åmol & Aras
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:48 am
by Lady Saavik
Oh please how I hate that...
When we say something about design you guys act like its major reason... We are like oh bla bla gameplay and btw bad color, not like no release because I dont like the background...
I must read always replies that design isnt a reason. Sure, we know, and you?
I always say what I liked when I said map is bad. Why you never said to me "Oh so if there are good things why no release?"
Look at the beginning, annoying placed rocket, I cant pass the noobfilter, after that first try tight part, next stupidly faily part, some time later map gets a bit better till its fucked up at end. The beginning is terrible, for 2, 3, 10 tees... Some ways to do the parts are tricky/luck.
Trust me, we played whole map. If you are rly so angry because we dare to comment ugly background I can make 15 screenshots what I would improve.