Seagulls

[Zaiross]

People will just use it to argue about releasing their own bad maps

Oh I just want post same, but you was first.
@hi_leutte_gll, fully agree.
I`m wondering whats going on ddnet last time... Such a mistakes are critical, how many times hallowen night was called as the worst map released. Cogratulation, new candidate!
Mb east didnt saw this, I want to release that, please(new idea, and "novice maps shouldnt be creative", so why not, I can make AWESOME design for this sh*t? :

can i made design for this awsome map ? pleaseeeeeee

[Welf]

Many guys were for the release:
Nico, Broken, Fnokurka, Avo and me

tons of novice parts aren't really creative, it is not the job of novice maps to be creative. show me a novice map with at least 20% new parts (you might find some, but not many)

some parts here are 'hard', but the map is for rather unexperienced players
maybe we should put it on moderate 1*

@Bannzay: Halloween Night isn't a bad map, its for beginners and they can learn something at the map (e.g. hookthrough). If you don't like novice maps, just don't play them and stop insulting maps. You also don't need to show your screenshot, you are using it to compare real maps with it, that's not fair.

[BannZay]

@Welf most of ur ppl thinking that is fine, okay, but Knight, hi_leutte_gll, BamBam and me was fully against that.
tons of map not creative, lets add +1. The best tester ever... Huh we want not 80% copyied parts, just something own new in old idea, thats all!
If parts bored its not equal "map is for rather unexperienced players", parts are too hard and should be on novice servers. Also novice players cant recognize stars of map.
About Halloween Night, yea i`m partially agree that this is not real the best map, but in fact I have nothing against this map. I dont like novice maps, huh Welf? Yea lets stop insulting, release all, and after few monthes got fights against ppl who want remove bad maps and ppl who got good ranks and wont lost it.

[Ryozuki]

People will just use it to argue about releasing their own bad maps

Oh I just want post same, but you was first.
@hi_leutte_gll, fully agree.
I`m wondering whats going on ddnet last time... Such a mistakes are critical, how many times hallowen night was called as the worst map released. Cogratulation, new candidate!
Mb east didnt saw this, I want to release that, please(new idea, and "novice maps shouldnt be creative", so why not, I can make AWESOME design for this sh*t? :

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Hey, you rly think that the person that made this map will take this as a f**cking joke? You make me rlly angry, I would say some bad words but i wont.

Firts of all, you know there is work behind it? it can be a bad map or good, but im pretty sure, that there is work behind this, you should take some class about how to respect others work.

Instead of saying shit you can say what to change, what to improve, and what is good also, or a way to make good parts even better, instead of posting shit pictures.

[Fňokurka oo7]

Hahah...yes I fixed that part a bit, sorry I couldn't do it better. (facepalm)
Let's join together, and attack every mapper with his map. Sounds like fun, right?
If you don't like this map you can say it somehow different...
Btw I voted YES for this map so If I'm for release everybody should be. End of discussion.

[BannZay]

Hey, you rly think that the person that made this map will take this as a f**cking joke?

Ryozuki you are the big joke for me

Firts of all, you know there is work behind it? it can be a bad map or good, but im pretty sure, that there is work behind this,

I`m the mapper too, so I know how its hard, but bad worker never got work while didnt make much shit and become as good worker.

Instead of saying shit you can say what to change, what to improve, and what is good also, or a way to make good parts even better, instead of posting shit pictures.

For mapping you should have some skill, I cant make new map and send it as improve for current. Also the main reason why i`m not do that becouse map is pretty bad and was moved to archive, so I decide that it was rejected.

If you don't like this map you can say it somehow different...

Soryy, I cant say facts using another words...

[hi_leute_gll]

tons of novice parts aren't really creative, it is not the job of novice maps to be creative. show me a novice map with at least 20% new parts (you might find some, but not many)

But good mappers are able to map basic parts in a way that they feel new w/o making them really new. So you are basically playing the same, but you aren't bored, cause you think you are playing something different.

"and noobs also don't want to play the same parts again and again, i know many people who tried to cut the novice server, cause they were bored"

But anyway, there are much better maps on Novice. : o

[Ryozuki]

Hey, you rly think that the person that made this map will take this as a f**cking joke?

Ryozuki you are the big joke for me

Firts of all, you know there is work behind it? it can be a bad map or good, but im pretty sure, that there is work behind this,

I`m the mapper too, so I know how its hard, but bad worker never got work while didnt make much shit and become as good worker.

Instead of saying shit you can say what to change, what to improve, and what is good also, or a way to make good parts even better, instead of posting shit pictures.

For mapping you should have some skill, I cant make new map and send it as improve for current. Also the main reason why i`m not do that becouse map is pretty bad and was moved to archive, so I decide that it was rejected.

If you don't like this map you can say it somehow different...

Soryy, I cant say facts using another words...

So, basically,you are a bad tester, we are in the same, you didn't changed.
"I cant say facts using other words", men, then go to study instead of testing maps here

[BannZay]

So, basically,you are a bad tester, we are in the same, you didn't changed.

I do not understand why you're so determined, using my last quote... Yea, probably i`m bad tester, i`m become as trial only few monthes ago. If you think that overloyalty is the main point of great testr its the big mistake. I`m just trying to be critical, as was sayed over999 ddnet contain tons of bad maps but too late to remove that, so I`m just for release only for really good maps, and even dont focus on VERY bad maps if I`m against most of your maps its not equal "i`m bad tester"!

"I cant say facts using other words", men, then go to study instead of testing maps here

Study for what? Why even I`m should do that? If you kid, and going cry after my critical word - its your problem, I`m not such bad person in speaking with adequate ppl, and its only your problem then

Btw stop complaining, and lets discuss about subject of this thread

[Soreu]

Ryozuki, if you like to critique other tester so much, remind me please why you aren't one of testers?

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This map should never have been released, as several Testers already wrote weeks ago.

Many guys were for the release:
Nico, Broken, Fnokurka, Avo and me

So sounds like a point to start further discussion instead of saying that map is ready. Instead we see shit now, because wrong steps has been taken.