hi_leute_gll wrote:Since the thread is messed up with much bullshit and it is impossible to pick the useful posts out, we are not going to do much posts here and also tell our "supporters" to better stay out.
"Useful" posts would be actually either those that really show that Aoe (and the rest) deserve a ban) or any response from the leadership od DDNet. Where the first ones do not exist and the second are rare.
hi_leute_gll wrote:We can just loose here, also cause real arguments are often ignored by haters.
I am new to the community, do not know that much about what's going on but for this whole situation I am inclined to side with Aoe because there is no
VISIBLE evidence of Aoe's misbehaviour. At least I do not see anything that should result in banning so many people.
hi_leute_gll wrote:Some people got bans, cause they are insulting all the time and ignore our rules. We don't delete posts which just contain opinions, even if they might be not the smartest ones. But if people are presenting their opinions with many insulting and not fair posts, we delete them and also give warnings to them. Some people are collecting warnings like stamps, so they get bans. And some of them even try to evade bans, so we make these bans longer.
PS: I have been asked to post this here, it was originally written in a pm.
The problem is, that by deleting these posts you delete any proof of their misbehaviour. How do you expect the community to understand what you (the leadership) did if the community cannot evaluate the situation themselves? For some of us it looks pretty much like this:
- Aoe disagrees with what the leadership is doing
- Leadership doesn't want any disputes on the forum and doesn't answer with anything meaningful
- Aoe gets pissed
- Leadership gets pissed
- Leaderhip bans a bunch of people
If Aoe did something bad enough to deserve a ban, well then fine, but as is it looks just as if he got banned because the leadership of DDNet did not like him.
In all honesty, I have no idea what the average age of this community is but I know that most (if not all) of the people concerned by this situation are adults. So for f**k sake act like adults. You can talk this through and find a way to make both sides happy. It is not that hard to get to an agreement but if both sides are reluctant to do so... well then we end up with shit like this.
Moreover, this community is small so we should really care about it. Why the heck can't we all act as friends? Ok fine, some people might not like other people, it's natural, but this doesn't have to create such retarded conflicts.
Finally, I hope this will be read by those that are concerned and maybe it will make some people think more about this situation, because when adults act like this, it's pretty pitiful to watch.
