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You all know this map, its broken and nearly every rank is cheated, but i found a possibility to finish this map in 0s, its a bit complicated but after you got the way to keep shotgun up to spawn its very ez and you have endless tries.
The cheat works with playing map in 4p team, 2 goes finish and go back to start
Other 2 tees kill themselves so u join team 0 again

well known bug

Ninjed wrote:well known bug

Nope, known is only the shortcut, not the 0s cheat

it might just be me but can u stop with these posts we all know there are maps that u can do in 0s some easier than others but when that happens u just show the admins and not tell the whole world how they did it meaning more and more cheated ranks will come just because of you doing these posts

Don't think that he should stop posting them here :o
Yea, it's easier now to get a cheated ranks but once the map is fixed and reloaded, the unlegit ranks should be removed with it anyways.
And with posting it public more people get an idea about how these things are done and therefore even more bugs and cuts can potentially be discovered and fixed.

To sum it up: yes you can now cheat the maps with clear instructions. But no, that's imo not a problem.
So, thanks for showing us all the cuts. Although I starting to feel like every ddnet map is cheatable right now lol

Agree hard with Index.

Index wrote: Yea, it's easier now to get a cheated ranks but once the map is fixed and reloaded, the unlegit ranks should be removed with it anyways.

Apparently it isn't possible at all to figure out which ranks aren't legit - especially on such an old map. Even though there can be some obvious ones, it is basically not possible to say which time is legit and which not, since you can abuse this 0s-cheat to fake times, which look plausible.

hi_leute_gll wrote:

Index wrote: Yea, it's easier now to get a cheated ranks but once the map is fixed and reloaded, the unlegit ranks should be removed with it anyways.

Apparently it isn't possible at all to figure out which ranks aren't legit - especially on such an old map. Even though there can be some obvious ones, it is basically not possible to say which time is legit and which not, since you can abuse this 0s-cheat to fake times, which look plausible.


Waiting for "legit" time, i can smell a Konsti

Well ofc we cant say for sure which ranks are cheated, but i guess having the option to finish a map in 0s is the important thing here.
Imo if people can skip one or alot parts with some brain, its fine for me, especially in old maps, cause you cant tell who did the skip, and who not. (Its a diffrent thing on more recent maps) But all 0s Ranks should be deleted and fixed.

So to write my answer as a real post instead of all these moderator notification .___. :
You're right all, it's not possible to detect every cheated rank. I slightly over-generalized it there, but that doesn't really change my first statement. Therefore I agree with StormPhoenix: The totally obvious zero second finishes can be deleted, and the rest is imo not really a problem. Yea, maybe the 10th or 15th rank is unlegit, but that doesnt matter especially with old maps. Actually skipping and using brain is a achievment on its own, and as long as these doesnt affect the try-hard speedrunners, its good :p

So, really long story short:
Just continue posting skips here :)