Over Upward by Themix

[Tezcan]

before ddnet nobody complained about ddmax maps

Wow really?
At that time there was no DDNet.
DDNet was with quality and not with quantity.
Thanks to Lady Saavik..

[hi_leute_gll]

DDNet was with quality and not with quantity.

The problem is that this point changed, guys like Welf say that every playable map should be released.
That means that also this map here should be released, saying that some bad maps get released and others not is just unfair for the mappers.

[Welf]

This map is annoying, some somehow it isnt playable (and we know that the mapper can make better maps)

[hannibal]

don't compare ddmax maps with ddnet maps
ddmax maps are added for nostalgic reasons not because they have ddnet quality

[hi_leute_gll]

This map is annoying, some somehow it isnt playable

I can say the same about many other maps where you gave your okay for a release.

(and we know that the mapper can make better maps)

That is what i meant in my previous posts, your decission depends on the mapper not on the map.


Don't understand me wrong, i still prefer quality. But if you want release every crap, then release every crap...

[Themix]

This map is annoying, some somehow it isnt playable

It depends of player.

(and we know that the mapper can make better maps)

Sure I can but i made this different map for FUN
Imo is good for release, nvm...

[kamillentee]

don't compare ddmax maps with ddnet maps
ddmax maps are added for nostalgic reasons not because they have ddnet quality

If so, ddmax maps wouldn't deserve any point's. They are accepted by default no matter how bad they are. Not saying I was against ddmax server but a server without points as suggested by hi_leute and me would have prevented many problems appearing now.

• people farm points now on ddnet server (At least now points have no relation to the skill level anymore)
• DDNet can't claim the quality status anymore
• people are using ddmax as argument to release every crap they mapped
• big discussions
• ...

[Tezcan]

Best solution.

[Welf]

"but there are maps, which are worse" was never an argument, to release a map (otherwise you can take the worst map on ddnet and say "mine is better")

[hi_leute_gll]

Not saying I was against ddmax server but a server without points as suggested by hi_leute and me would have prevented many problems appearing now.

If you see bad things incoming and mention them, you always get flame.

"but there are maps, which are worse" was never an argument, to release a map (otherwise you can take the worst map on ddnet and say "mine is better")

That changes every snd day, depending on how you want that argument to be, fitting to your position.